SPC900 vs. Xbox Live cam vs. Lifecam Cinema

“What webcam can I use if I can’t get/afford an SPC900?” seems to be a common question now the SPC900 has become difficult to get hold of, but there doesn’t seem to be much empirical evidence on which to base a comparison of the alternatives, so last night I went out with a view to testing out two other cheap-ish cameras against the SPC900.

It’s not unreasonable to suggest that this is not exactly a fair test. I’ve put, errr, lots of hours into learning to image with the SPC900. I’ve had very little time with the other two and I don’t propose to repeat my efforts. I hope this is useful nonetheless.

All the test images were created using a 127 Mak on an EQ3-2. In the back of the Mak was a GSO/Revelation 2.5x barlow and an extension tube made from a kit Skywatcher barlow with the lenses removed. That gives a focal ratio of somewhere in the region of f/35. I’ve done the best I can in terms of settings and capture for the images rather than used the same for all, with the exception of only using Registax v6 for stacking and only making one attempt with each dataset which means there are some stacking artefacts in some of the images. The Xbox and Lifecam cameras also have sensors that could do with a bit of a clean, but it’s taken me ages to get my SPC900 sensor clear of filth and I didn’t have time to do the others. I used SharpCap for the captures and generally stuck to three minute runs. Seeing was pretty good generally, but not quite milkywaytastic. Before feeding the data into Registax I cropped the capture files down using PIPP, and each single image below is the result of a different capture run.

First the Xbox camera. Dirt cheap, and I’d modded it by cutting down the lens cowl and fitting a nosepiece with an IR filter, picking all the LEDs off the circuit board and fitting a small fan to the back. I had some trouble getting the colour balance anywhere near something that looked good with this camera and it was astonishingly noisy. Despite the fact that it will allow higher frame rates, the fastest I could get it to run and produce a reasonable image was 15fps. The images also came out astonishingly purple. I’m not talking a delicate shade of violet here. I mean quite vibrant in-your-face purple. I have no idea why that should be, but it was quite clear from the histograms in Registax that blue and red were far stronger than the green. On the positive front this camera does have a gain control and I used it to keep the SharpCap histogram around the 80% mark. I captured 1800 frames in each run and stacked the best 50%, adjusting the histogram to give a bit more natural colour. Registax did struggle a bit with the RGB alignment and I ended up having to adjust that by hand. Here are the results:

You know what? They’re noisy and showing signs of being over-processed, but for a £4 webcam I think that’s pretty good. When I started out imaging I’d have been very happy to have turned out something like that. The banding is clear and it’s possible to make out the festoons and turbulence around the NEB and if you can do that in the first few times you’ve been out imaging the planets with a webcam I think you’ve made a fair job of it.

And so to the Lifecam Cinema. I modded this one and housed it in a Skywatcher 25mm kit eyepiece barrel with an IR filter on the end. Whilst the camera supports larger images there was no need and I just used 640×480 to try to keep the frame rate up. As it happened I found higher frame rates just made for very poor image quality and I ended up dropping back to 20fps at the most. There’s no separate gain control on this camera and the white balance, brightness and gamma seem to work in a way that isn’t entirely clear to me. Whilst the Xbox camera was plain noisy, this one just seemed really hard to get a decent image out of on the screen and I spent ages fiddling with the controls before getting something I felt was acceptable. I seem to have more stacking artefacts in these than any of the others and the colour balance was difficult to get reasonable. The camera seems exceptionally sensitive in red and I had to wind the red channel down a bit to balance things out. Even now two of the images look far too yellow, but that’s probably fixable given more time. Registax did hideously badly at getting the RGB align right and I had to do that manually. Here they are:

The processing artefacts are a bit of a distraction, but in terms of detail I think these aren’t bad. They’re a definite step up from the Xbox camera, but then the camera itself is perhaps five times as expensive.

And finally, the daddy of them all, the SPC900. Compared to the other two cameras this one is so easy to use, the colours are far more controlled and it’s just far easier to work with. It’s a doddle to modify and the upgrade from SPC880 to SPC900 is easy as long as you have access to a Windows XP box. It won’t do more than 10fps at 640×480 without serious compression of the data, but actually the other two don’t do a whole lot better anyhow. Registax still had trouble stacking some of my files and created artefacts in the final images though less intrusive than those from the Lifecam, but otherwise there were no real problems in creating these:

I think it’s quite obvious that the SPC900 leaves the others in the dust. For the £5 I paid for the ones I have it’s brilliant. For the £50 or thereabouts it seems to go for now it’s still a pretty good imaging camera. The detail is sharper, the colours are cleaner, the low-light performance is just better and it’s actually less work.

It is entirely possible that with other scopes these camera may perform differently. I think the more light you can get on the Xbox and Lifecam cameras the better they do. I really wouldn’t want to guess at how they’d perform in, say, a 200P, but hopefully this is a useful datapoint. The Xbox camera particularly seems to struggle a bit in low light, but it clearly still can work.

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Hot Shoe Red Dot Finder

Having taken a few wide field images with my DSLR on the EQ3-2 now, I’ve realised what a pain it is getting the target area in the field of view when much of it is too faint to see, let alone getting the framing right. So I decided to modify a spare red dot finder to fit on the hot shoe and allow me to get the target in the frame more easily.

I started off by removing the base from the finder so I could work on it easily:

To get it to fit the hot shoe I trimmed off quite a section of the front, including some of the support, leaving the remainder short enough to push right into the finder. The sides were trimmed off similarly as was the small stop on the back edge, which fouls the camera otherwise. The final modification required was to cut slots in the edges of the foot with a hacksaw into which the edges of the hot shoe can slide:

That done it’s just a case of reassembling the finder and putting it on the camera:

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Perseus wide field

Taken the on the same night as my earlier image of Cassiopeia, here’s Perseus. In the top right corner it’s just possible to see the California Nebula starting to emerge.

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Cassiopeia wide field

I spent an evening playing with my new Canon 50mm f/1.8 “nifty fifty” lens and taking some long exposures of constellations near the zenith. This is Cassiopeia. The keen-eyed will spot the double cluster at the centre of the right hand edge and the Heart and Soul Nebula at the bottom right. There’s also another nebula in the bottom left corner and a few other clusters dotted about.

Focus wasn’t perfect and I think I need to stop the lens down a little to control the distortion at the edges of the field of view (some of which I cropped off), but for a first attempt at imaging with the lens I’m not unhappy.

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Another Sunspot Image

This is a full-size crop of my solar image for 4th October. Very pleased with the detail I’m getting here.

The image was a “white light” full solar disk taken using a Canon 450D and 127 Mak using Baader solar film, shooting 120 frames and then stacking about half of them.

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Sunspot Imaging with the Lifecam Cinema

I was out doing some solar imaging recently and tried to get my son a bit more interested in the world that exists outside various electronic games devices by getting him to get some sunspot images using my modded Lifecam Cinema and his ST102. I’ve had problems with the Lifecam for planetary imaging because I think I just can’t get enough light onto it with my 127 Mak, but I was hoping that wouldn’t be an issue with the Sun. It wasn’t entirely successful largely owing to a deficit of patience on his part, but eventually we came away with this:

It’s not short of stacking artefacts (I had real problems stacking the images at all) and there’s a clear lack of dynamic range, but I think there’s enough data there to suggest that given a bit more time tweaking camera settings and experimenting with the processing the Lifecam could be quite an acceptable camera for solar imaging.

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August 2012 FIT payment

At the end of August our latest FIT payment arrived covering the late Spring/early Summer period. Obviously given the weather this wasn’t as high a figure as we’d been hoping for, but means that 8.6% of the installation cost is now covered. The next payment should take us up to our first full year and we can review how we’re doing at that point.

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Solar PV Generation Update October 2012

And so the abnormal weather continues…

Generation for September this year totalled 333kWh, up 7.5% from the previous September and a somewhat astounding 32% more than would normally be expected for September. That increase completely covers the failure to meet the expected generation figures for April, July and August. It’s also more than was generated in June! Total generation since installation now stands at 3603kWh.

As the FITs year runs from April to March I’m going to work out our figures based on that because it saves having to switch prices halfway through the year. This brings our total generation for April on to 2213kWh worth about £1040 in FITs payments and saving up to £330 in electricity that we haven’t had to purchase from the grid and total income since installation to around £1670 with up to £540 worth of electricity that we haven’t had to purchase from the grid.

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Observation Report 8 September 2012

Another moonlit night washing the less bright objects out, but clear enough to step out with the 10″ dob again…

First up was M39 in Cygnus. I found this one tricky to locate, but eventually got to it starting from ρ Cygni. From there I hopped to g Cygni and noting a straight line of stars ending at that star, moved in the opposite direction. I found M39 to be a small open cluster surrounded by other stars making it hard to pick out. I think it would be possible to overlook it in the surrounding star field very easily.

Next over to the ever popular M31/M32/M110 group in Andromeda. Easy to find and impressively bright despite the moonlight I found I could make out more of the extended area of the galaxy. M32 still appeared some distance from the core of M31 though, so clearly I couldn’t see as much as I know to be there. M32 was still clear and not hard to find even if it was still just a small grey smudge in the prevailing conditions. M110 on the opposite side of the main galaxy was on the other hand much more tricky to find and only just discernable as a faint grey blob.

I moved over to Cassiopeia next for M52 which I found to be quite well-defined though faint. It was very easy to find and filled the field of view of my 9mm BGO nicely with the stars being easy to resolve.

Also in Cassiopeia I found M103, an open cluster which sadly wasn’t too impressive with the Moon now being quite bright in the sky. Another to return to when the viewing conditions are more favourable.

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Observation Report 6 September 2012

Very poor seeing on this particular night. I couldn’t even be sure I could make out the four stars in the “body” of Usra Minor, so the conditions were clearly not at all good. Nonetheless I got out for a while with the 10″ dob to see what was visible.

I first found M2 in Aquarius. A very impressive dense, large cluster. In the conditions it was hard to resolve individual stars, but was well worth finding.

Despite the conditions I also found M15. It appeared a similar size to M2, but perhaps not as dense overall, having a clearer core area with more stars being resolved around the edges especially with averted vision.

These two are clearly well worth another visit on a better night.

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