BT are utterly bloody useless, part 2

After 50 minutes on hold, I eventually managed to speak to another “guide” at BT this morning who insisted that I absolutely would have to wait the full twenty-four hours before recreating my account, despite previously being told it would probably be ok in a couple of hours. I also asked how I could get in touch with someone helpful if it didn’t work and was told that other than using the usual mechanism the only other possibility was to use the “self-serve” system on the website. He was of course completely unable to actually direct my to any obvious “self-serve” system on the website and I couldn’t find it anywhere, but many peoples’ experience seems to be that the website just sends you round in circles unless you want to give BT money, so perhaps that should be no surprise. He was absolutely adamant that it was the only other option however. If I’m honest, it sounded as though he was totally unfamiliar with the actual website.

So having waited 24 hours after my BT login was deleted, once again I tried to create a new account. Surprise surprise, it didn’t work, claiming that my email address was still in use for another account. And I could still log in using that allegedly deleted account, though there were no services associated with it. And when I tried to add them and waited for the required interval, they still weren’t there.

I feel utterly shat on. BT are utterly inept when it comes to providing clueful customer service. If you don’t fit the one of their scripts then you’re absolutely screwed and they just don’t care.

I’ve documented the entire thing and emailed it off to the address on the CEOmail site together with a list of what I want them to do to help resolve the mess. I might call them tomorrow. I might not. At the moment I’m not sure I can face it. As far as I can tell I’d just be wasting a load of my time, talking to clowns who actually have no idea how to improve the situation.

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Nibbles, anyone?

(Can)nibbles, perhaps? This photo was widely circulated a few weeks back when Richy Sunak and Even-Richer wife did some sort of ill-considered interview about how he loves loading the dishwasher. He could sit back and watch it for hours, I’m sure.

To me, it just looks as though they’re trying to decide which bit of the interviewer to eat first.

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Crap website design

My, I am having a ranty evening.

As well as the issues with the BT website highlighted in an earlier post today, I’ve just been reminded of another totally thoughtless piece of design that is common to many sites. That is: the “contact us” option.

I can clearly see that it’s useful to provide a number of pre-configured options to enable better descriptions of problems to be entered and so that issues can be routed to the right people, but it’s so common not to see an option for queries that don’t fit any of the specified list.

BT’s website is a good example and I know I’m not the only person who has run into it, but they’re far from the only culprit. I visited a website today and tried to buy something only to get the message “There was a problem processing your order”. That’s an utterly unhelpful message to start with, because it provides no useful information. What sort of problem? At what stage of the ordering process? Stock levels? Card payment? What?

So I found the “contact us” links on the site and whilst they provide forms for dealing with orders that have been taken or shipped, and forms to help work out exactly what part to order, there’s absolutely nothing that fits “the order process didn’t work and I’d like to know what’s going on so it can be corrected”. So, they lose a sale and I have to purchase from another supplier when they were my preferred choice. And it’s now probably likely that I’ll prefer to use another supplier from now on.

Their loss.

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More toys for the Boxford

Delivered this afternoon, a few more lathe toys that I can play with.

A fixed steady, vertical slide, knurling tool, screw holder, a faceplate and a few other holding and clamping tools.

Also delivered, but not in the box, a 1964 copy of Sparey’s “The Amateur’s Lathe”.

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Memory Lane, 26 November 2022: Logs in

First batch of logs from this Winter’s tree felling. Should keep us warm for a while next Winter.

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A bit of progress with hive repairs

“Other stuff” seems to have taken up much time today, but I did at least get a little bit of progress made on repairing hives.

First I put some danish oil on the rims I added to floors a few days ago, then painted over the car body filler repairs that I’d made to a poly hive.

Next up was a worn super. I decided that it was really beyond reasonable repair however and gave up. After that I had a brood box that is starting to come apart at the corners. I applied PU glue and a clamp. Hopefully that will be sufficient to keep it in one piece. I’ve done the top today. Tomorrow I’ll do the bottom.

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It’s been a day of upset

Not considering my travails with BT sufficient, Fate had another chainsaw to throw in the washing machine this afternoon…

I was sitting at my desk when I heard a kerfuffle from the chickens. I looked out of the window to see what excitement was occurring, but it wasn’t clear so I wandered outside. To find the most enormous fox I have ever seen dispatching a cockerel that I was keeping for breeding purposes. In the adjoining run, all but one of our hens were dead 🙁

The fox saw me and without hesitation completely jumped the fence to escape. I’ve never seen that happen before. It’s been a while since we’ve had any kind of fox incursion other than when my son didn’t properly close the gate, but they’ve always got in under the wire rather than jumping it.

I’m going to have to give chicken security some more thought…

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BT are utterly bloody useless

I’m not sure I’ve really got that title right. It doesn’t really convey the full enormity of their sheer sickening awfulness.

I received an email from them a couple of days ago saying that I was overdue paying my bill. Which I was, because the last time they actually sent me a notification that a bill was due was in March 2023. I’ve no idea why. So I went to their website to sort it all out and that was where the “fun” began.

I logged in using the same username I’ve been using since 2007 and was redirected here:

Well, that’s odd. Perhaps it’s a browser issue. I’ll try in another browser.

Hmmm. How about I copy the redirection URL and paste that in directly?

Or, trying another

At this point I had to phone them and run the gauntlet of their IVR system, eventually managing to talk to a human “guide”, largely by ignoring all the IVR options. He told me that the first problem was that they had no email address on record for me. Hard to understand when they’ve been sending me emails to the same address for seventeen years. How did they find out what it was? Perhaps they have it on record, but don’t have it on record that they have it on record?

After that he suggested that the problem might be that I was logging in with a username rather than an email address and that they hadn’t used usernames for ages. “Ages since January when I last logged in to pay my bill?” I asked, also pointing out that the login page invites the visitor to log in with either their email address or username. Regardless, he said I’d need to sign up with a new account using my email address and emailed me a link. We got as far as the security questions…

At this point I had to ask for help from “normal” people, one of whom suggested that perhaps I should try without any spaces. Pretty odd and wouldn’t have occurred to me (clearly it hadn’t), but amazing! It worked! That’s utterly batshit crazy UI design. Why would you not say “without spaces” if that’s what you meant to be understood by “using only words”? And how am I supposed to remember in five years time when I need it for the first time that the answer to the security question should have no spaces between the words? At this stage they emailed me a link to enable my account and told me to click on the link in the email. So I did. To which I got the response “Please wait ten minutes before clicking on the link”. What?!

Ten minutes later I clicked on the link and I’m in! Err, well, no. It bounces me to the login page, but that wasn’t entirely a surprise. Enter my new details and off we go!

Oh bloody hellfire. Another phone call. A “guide” who tried to be helpful using the old “delete the account and recreate it” workaround. A bit like rebooting Windows when it starts behaving oddly, I guess. She deleted the account and I received an email saying “We’ve now deleted your BT ID, so you won’t be able to use it to log in anymore”. On with recreating the account. Only I can’t, because my email address is apparently still in use. In desperation, the “guide” suggested that I give it a couple of hours and try again. (What craziness is this?) I did. It didn’t work.

Out of idle curiosity I tried logging in with my deleted account details. They work! But I don’t have any phone lines associated with the account. Never mind, I have the account number and there’s a button to link the two. Enter the details and everything looks good, although I have to wait ten minutes (again) for the two to be linked, so I returned to the “my account” page to be greeted with

A few more hours later, I’ve just tried logging in again. The account still exists, but there are again no services associated with it.

At this point I’ve given up until tomorrow. If I phoned them again I’d probably just end up reaching down the phone line and slamming the “guide’s” head into the desk repeatedly until I felt better.

We have FTTP now, so it’s time to go organising a move to VoIP. Then I’ll be free of BT forever. Oh, wait! My mobile phone is on EE. They’re merging with BT now. Looks like I’ll have to move my phone contract too. I can barely wait.

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Memory Lane, 26th November 2022

Oh dear! No more apple peeling for you! After several years of sterling service, the crank on our apple peeler/corer has snapped off. Don’t think there’s much I can do to repair this one. It might be time to invest in a replacement.

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Asparagus are go!

I’m sure these weren’t there yesterday, but they’re definitely there now 😀 I’m so excited about this. They were planted three winters ago, so this year is the first year we’ll actually harvest any. I’ll need to look up how to actually do it now 😀

Eating with some home-made mayonnaise using our own home-produced eggs sounds like the ideal first meal.

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